tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6871810956803730359.post2165663648264091614..comments2023-09-17T10:04:56.318+03:00Comments on Welcoming Olim: Bituach Leumi Difficulties - Be Careful!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6871810956803730359.post-62908705939618805002012-03-21T07:01:59.386+02:002012-03-21T07:01:59.386+02:00Bituach Leumi of Israel costs honest folks much mo...Bituach Leumi of Israel costs honest folks much more than a shekel or two, and I think the above is a distraction from the real injustice that is the national insurance tax system. Living in the "holy" land makes the practice that much more disgusting.<br /><br />Even those who are unemployed must pay, as if not having money for food or rent is such a small sacrifice for "free" healthcare (assuming one qualifies if behind on payments.) Then there are the locked bank accounts and confiscation of property in one's own home to pay for the fees unpaid. <br /><br />Getting help is near impossible since gemachs, nonprofits, as well as BL staff all cross arms over chest, point to the left and the right, telling folks to go to the other guy if hungry or can't pay landlord, but just make sure to pay that national insurance... or else. <br /><br />Bituach Leumi of Israel extorts citizens, including the poor, through fines, theft, and thuggery. That's what folks ought to get angry over and rise up against! These acts are also legal and a heck of a lot worse than losing one or two shekels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6871810956803730359.post-2470771039367712502012-03-05T22:34:50.377+02:002012-03-05T22:34:50.377+02:00I have returned after being out of the land for 6 ...I have returned after being out of the land for 6 years. I'm now considered a returning citizen. I left Dec 2004 and didn't receive any booklets for 2004. I'm also now pension age. have not worked much in Israel. Maybe just 3 yrs total. Went down to Bituach Leumi to update and recently received a bill for 3055 shekels. 1200 of that is the penalty. My accountant told me to absolutely not pay the penalty part. He wants to contest it. Can I do that? I will be going down tommorrow to pay it. I don't want to pay the penalty part. What do you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6871810956803730359.post-36510909938904223312011-12-30T09:57:20.574+02:002011-12-30T09:57:20.574+02:00Excellent Post. Bituach Leumi has to be the most d...Excellent Post. Bituach Leumi has to be the most difficult agency to deal with. When making a claim always give them only copies as they have a habit of losing papers and saying they never received them. When I have a claim, I make 2 copies. One to submit and the other, I have them date stamp every page. Experience taught me two can play the game. <br />MiriamMiriamhttp://miriamswords.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6871810956803730359.post-62224972704521547482011-12-29T15:36:32.154+02:002011-12-29T15:36:32.154+02:00You are being too kind. Bitu'ach Le'umi i...You are being too kind. Bitu'ach Le'umi is much, much more complex than this - and much more crooked, too.<br /><br />One must pay Bitu'ach Le'umi for every month that you exist. Period. They keep their records by the month. Once you have paid ANYTHING for the month, you are off the hook for that month (if you have paid the right amount).<br /><br />However, when they send you demand notices for more money, they simply say "you owe 5,692 shekels" and do not itemize which months have been paid up and which are still missing. They don't seem to actually KNOW what you've paid nor for which months.<br /><br />Thus people get bills regularly (I get them every month and ignore them) and every once in a while may get another notice that they have "found" some payments made 1-2 years ago, reducing the amount you owe. When I asked them about this, they said that they don't update their records for 18 months or more after payments are made - but they send bills immediately! Lesson: Keep all receipts - forever! They can forget that you made a payment and demand it all over again! Even 30 years later!<br /><br />Another problem is that Bituach Leumi TAKES MONEY FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT when they feel like it, if you don't pay up. I've had thousands stolen from me by Bituach Leumi. <br /><br />So they don't actually know what you've paid, they don't recognize payments when you do make them, they send out bills for payments which have already been paid and they freeze your bank account and pay themselves whenever they feel like it.<br /><br />I think that the Comptroller has more complaints about Bituach Leumi than any other government office. I wonder why?<br /><br />Welcome to the Socialist Workers Paradise!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com